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San Ramiro - Son of Sandro Z
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San Ramiro's offspring are now starting to compete
with their amateur riders. These riders are reporting how easy going,
willing and pleasure these San Ramiro offspring are to work with and ride.
Scalby, bred by Angela and Harry Coates, was BC
Provincial Champion in dressage with her amateur rider in Training Level
Amateur rider.
Pictures coming soon.
Trinity,
bred by Cedar Vista Stables, was Vancouver Island Hunter Jumper Association
year end champion Baby Green Hunter as well as the Young Horse Hunter
Champion for Vancouver Island.
Cedar Vista Stables also has Phoebe (pictured below
as a foal) who will be starting her
career
in the hunter ring starting in 2010. They expect to have very good
results with her based on her movement, temperament and jumping style. |
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Here are some famous
offspring of Sons of Sandro
(San Ramiro is a son of Sandro)
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Isabell Werth & Satchmo
Beijing Olympics 2008 |
Meredith Michaels
Beerbaum & Shutterfly
Beijing Olympics 2008 |
Paul Shochlemoehle's
Sandro Hit |
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Breed to San
Ramiro and Produce a Grandson of Sandro |
 San
Ramiro is one of those friendly, willing horses that is very trusting and
cuddly right from the get go.
The first time I met him he came up to me in his paddock with ears
forward and an expression on his face that said "Hi, you have come to visit?
Here scratch me right here..." and he proceeded to put his head down at knee
height for me to scratch him behind the ears. He then turned for me to
scratch behind the shoulder followed by his rump.
The day I went to pick him up my wife came with me. She had told
me she was not interested in working with the stallions, that was my thing
and that she would work with the geldings and mares. She had one look
at San Ramiro and I knew I was toast. All I said was "Happy Birthday
my love" and that was it. San Ramiro is now her horse.
She
never knew a stallion could be so easy to deal with. She loves it that
she can ride him bareback, go for walks with me on other horses and that he
is so cuddly. She also loves how naturally balanced he is, the
smoothness and power of his jump and his attitude of "What would you like to
do next?". A very honest horse.
He is an extremely willing horse that is happy to work and do what you
ask of him. He is happy doing dressage. He is happy jumping.
He is happy visiting when loose in the arena.
Those who have foals by him also comment on how kind and easy to work
with his foals are. They also comment on their smooth movement
and classic jumping technique.
After being sidelined due to injury for several years, we are
rehabilitating him carefully and he is now back in the competition
ring. Both him and my wife are making their come back into the
competition ring together. Technical details relating to his reliable
pedigree (Sandro x Raphael x Weinerward x Agram) follow.
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From Bellinda, breeder:
"Hi just want to let you know San Ramiro is
looking great. It is good to see him being riden and not just standing
around! I also had a foal by San Ramiro out of my Glendale x Consul mare and
she was the bomb. She was the best that I had ever produced. Good luck with
him he looks very happy!" |
San Ramiro is an imported Hanoverian stallion by the legendary and now
deceased Sandro Z out of a mare by Raphael (Ramiro Z).
San Ramiro
competed successfully up to the 1.30m classes in Germany prior to being
imported to the USA.
Sandro Z sons produce
champions:
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Shutterfly (by Silvio) ridden by
Meredith Michaels-Berbaum in the International Jumping Ring
Shutterfly wins 2007/2008 FEI World Cup!! |
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Sandro Hit (by Sandro Song)
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Sandro Boy son of Sandro Z that
under Markus Ehning is competing Internationally and doing very well |
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here to go to the information form. |

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Fully Approved by the Canadian Warmblod Horse Breeders Association (CWHBA),
RPSI, Theuringer and AWR. Site champion and
first premium scores at his AWR inspection.
Scored 9 for temperament, 9 for character, 8 for type and 8 for conformation
in his 100 day test at Neustadt/Dosse 1994.
Click here
to go to a more detailed
pedigree analysis writeup
As a brief summary San Ramiro has the following
influential sires closely in his pedigree:
Paternal Side:
Sandro Z,
Sacramento
Song xx,
Wahnfried
(sire of Der Lowe),
Nearco
Maternal Side:
Ramiro Z,
Raimond,
Abglanz,
Wienerwald,
Agram.

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Pedigree
(click on underlined names to take you to their picture)
Sandro Z |
Sacramento Song xx |
Sicambre |
Prince Brio |
Prince Rose |

Picture taken May 16, 2008 |
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Biologie |
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Sif |
Rialto |
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Suavita |
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Easter Gala |
Savajirao |
Nearco |
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Rosy Legend |
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Easter Day |
Easton |
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Galaday |
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Duerte |
Wahnfried |
Waldenser |
Ticino |
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Worms |
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Seglerin H |
Heilbutt |
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Coesfeld |
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Velour |
Duhnen |
Doemitz I |
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Abendfuertzin |
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Falkenspitze |
Falkenheim |
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Facana |
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Rachel |
Raphael |
Ramiro Z |
Raimond |
Ramzes |
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Infra |
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Valine |
Cottage Son |
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Holle |
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Annekatrin |
Abhang I |
Abglanz |
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Ankerhirtin |
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Wotansmeise |
Wotan |
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Felsenmeise |
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Windfee |
Wienerwald |
Widerhall |
Florentiner II |
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Fliegerperle |
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Alsterschoene |
Altenwalde |
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Juraehre |
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Alsterglueck |
Agram |
Alkoven I |
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Ackerkind |
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Finowal |
Finow |
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As a brief summary San Ramiro has the following
influential show jumping / dressage producers closely in his pedigree:
Paternal Side:
Sandro Z,
Sacramento
Song xx,
Wahnfried (sire of Der
Lowe),
Nearco
Maternal Side:
Ramiro Z,
Raimond,
Abglanz,
Wienerwald,
Agram.
Paternal Side
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The Hanoverian stallion San Ramiro is by
Sandro Z,
one of the most prominent stallions carrying the blood of the foundation
sire Sacramento Song xx.
San Ramiro's dam is by Raphael who is by Ramiro Z. This combination of
Sandro blood with a mare by a son of Ramiro Z is also found in the stallion
Sandro Hit. It is noteworthy to breeders that breeding to San Ramiro
is bringing in very similar genetic material to that in Sandro Hit.
San Ramiro offers North American breeders the opportunity to produce good
looking, rideable top level horses.
It is through Sandro that the blood of
Sacramento Song xx lives on and daily grows more influential in both
dressage and jumping breeding. Sacramento Song was a classically bred
English Thoroughbred who stood in Holstein from 1973 to his early death in
1979. He is described in Dr Dietrich Rossow’s Stallion Book of the
Holsteiner Warmblood Breed as: "A classically bred English Thoroughbred with
beautiful, smoothly harmonious topline. Beautiful head, rather low set on
neck, impressive shoulder with good coupling to the croup. Well muscled,
strong legs and feet, sufficient gaits. Tremendous jumping ability, very
tight with front end and good with knees."
Dr Rossow was of the opinion that he bred: ‘Very
good temperaments, keen, energetic dispositions. Top jumper sire!’ Alas as a
private stallion he was only sparingly used by the Holstein breeders to
their later regret. By 1990 with progeny earnings of DM696,000 he was the
8th most successful post-war Thoroughbred sire in Germany! Sacramento Song
had 31 competitors with placings, 29 of which were showjumpers. After his
death three exceptional sons were licensed on the grounds of their
competition results: Sympatico, Sacramento Son and Sandro.
Bent Neergaard is a very respected Danish
breeder, he is also the man who ‘discovered’ Sandro. "I first saw Sandro
when he was two and an half years old. He was presented at the Holsteiner
stallion selection and was not accepted. So with one of my friends we bought
him and took him to Denmark. We presented him at the licensing and he was
approved and then did a very good 100 days test. A couple of years later he
went over to the famous eventing rider, Nils Haagensen. He did quite well
with him, but he was probably better for showjumping, so he was handed over
to my partner who took him jumping internationally."
"In Denmark, he was based at Fumen, but it
wasn’t really the right place for him. There were a lot of old Oldenburger
heavy horses - we thought it would be the right place for him but it wasn’t.
Then he moved to the southern area of Jutland, close to Germany, a
Holsteiner area. He covered some Holsteiner mares and with them, he was
really good. But still he wasn’t accepted all over Denmark - he only had a
few progeny from the first years and it wasn’t easy to get him accepted by
the breeding association or the breeders."
"He was sold to Paul Schockemöhle, and he
understood the quality of the horse. There is quite a lot of Thoroughbred in
this horse, and they can be a little bit loose in front, but it was a modern
horse. I think he was ten years in advance of his time, even in Denmark.
Schockemöhle could see exactly the potential of that horse, the modern type
with long legs, good riding capability - and he mixed him with the right
mares, the mares with the German ‘G’ blood. Now you can see Sandro blood in
all the major breeding associations all over the world."
"I had been in the army for many years, and also
worked with horses for many years. I liked lighter horses than most of the
breeders in those days. I liked his eyes and his beautiful head, I liked
this very fine looking horse - and I liked the blood also, I thought he
could be a very good performance horse. In those days, the breeders didn’t
look enough at performance, and I thought he would bring in some
performance."
"In a stallion the most important thing is
performance. But as a breeder you cannot sell horses unless you have
good-looking horses. So you have to look for performance, for a good-looking
horse, and you have to look for a horse that is very calm and good in the
head as well. You cannot say ‘only performance’ or ‘only beautiful’ or ‘only
temperament’ - you need all these things."
When he moved to Paul Schockemöhle’s stud,
Sandro also met up with Franke Sloothaak who continued his jumping career
for lifetime winnings of DM55,000. As a sire, Sandro has also been a
considerable success, with three of his progeny competing at the 1994 WEG in
The Hague - Sandro Song (Ante Smlesa), Safari (Michael Abo) and Paradiso
(Rolf-Göran Bengtsson). Sandro is the sire of more than 40 licensed sons,
the most successful being Silvio 1 and II, Sandro Song, Sao Paulo, Sandro
Boy and Salido Z. Successful competitors include; Salido Z (Debbie
Stephens), Sagrat (Guy Goosen), Sakrus (Debbie Winkler), Sympathico (Ersting-Engemann),
Silas M (Yanix Elad), Sheila and Sundance Kid (Franke Sloothaak) and
Santorin F (Fritz Fervers) and of course, the World Cup Champion, Sandro
Boy.
As a broodmare sire Sandro has also been
exceptionally successful: Lasango (Kurt Reinacher), San Serai Funky Town (Björn
Nagel), Lausano (René Tebbel), Risandro (Samantha McIntosh), Filias (Arnoldo
Bologni), High Class (Royne Zettermann), Cappucino and Santa Fe (Marco
Kutscher), Grand Soso (Markus Fuchs), Grand Soso II (Ulrik Kjaer) and High
Stepper (Maria Gretzer) - all Grand Prix showjumpers, all out of daughters
of Sandro. Sandro is unique in that he is the only stallion son of the cross
of Sacramento Song and Wahnfried - a cross that has also been very
successful in producing dams of stallions. The stallions Lavell I and II,
Atlantas Z and Campione, as well as international jumping horses, Cathleen
(Meredith Beerbaum - then Michaels) and Zigeunerin (Rodrigo Pessoa) all came
from that cross. Sandro’s dam, Dürte is the full sister of one of the most
successful Puissance horses ever - Wabbs. Durte is also the dam of Harvey
Smith’s Salvador. Silvio I was the winner of the Performance Test at
Adelheidsdorf in 1990, with very high marks for his jumping ability. Silvio
has been the sire of a number of impressive stallion sons including Sunrise,
Sir Lui, Sir Holtrup, Sergeant Pepper and Spider Murphy.
What is slightly more surprising is Sandro’s
influence on dressage breeding. If we look at the stallions represented in
the most recent (2004/5) Eylers’ German Stallion book, we find the jumping
stallions, San Brasil (by Sao Paulo), Sandro Boy (out of a Grannus mare) and
Santander H (out of a Contender mare) but there are more stallions promoted
for dressage - all sons of World Young Horse Dressage Champion, Sandro Hit.
There is Samba Hit (Reserve Champion at the 2002 Bundeschampionate in the 3
year old stallion class - and a full brother to World Six Year Old Young
Dressage Champion, Poetin), Show Star (who was Champion in that 3 year old
stallion class in 2002), the Westfalien state stud stallions, Sir Bedo and
Sterling, the exciting young Danish stallion, Blue Hors Soprano, and
Stedinger, a winner at the 2002 Oldenburg Stallion Days, and being out of a
Landadel / Furioso bred mare, Stedinger might be that rare creature, an
all-round stallion. Of his dressage performers, Isabell Weth’s Satchmo by
the Sandro son, Sao Paulo, is the most successful.
Sandro - now re-christened Sandro Z - stood the
last years of his life at the Zangersheide stud, where he died in August
2005.
In the survey of the world's top 75 jumping
sires that appears in the French publication, Monneron 2007-2008, compiled
by Bernard le Courtois, Sandro is 37th with 8 CSI winners incluuding World
Cup Champoin, Sandro Boy. His best stallion son, Silvio I is 56th with 6 CSI
winners including world number 11 - Shutterfly.
Sandro Z is one of the most succesfull breeding
stallions in both dressaage & showjumping as well as being one of the first
stallions to prove himself in the sport. Under Franke Sloothaak he
accumulated winnings amounting to DM 55,000. Sandro Z's progeny are very
sought after for sport horses. At the The Hague World Equestrian Games
(1994) he had three representatives, no less, in Sandro Song (Ante Simlesa),
Safari (Michael Abo) and Paradiso (Rolf-Göran Bengtsson). Sandro Z has more
than forty licensed sons including Silvio I and II, Sandro Song and Salido
Z. Many of his offspring are performing at the highest level showjumping as
well as dressage these include Sagrat (Guy Goossen), Silas M (Yanix Elad),
Sheilaand Siundance Kid (Franke Sloothaak) and Santorin F (Fritz Fervers).
Shutterfly is by Silvio, a son of Sandro Z.
Sandro is the sire of many licensed sons, the
most successful being Silvio 1 and II, Sandro Song, Sao Paulo, Sandro Boy
and Salido Z. Successful competitors include; Salido Z (Debbie Stephens),
Sagrat (Guy Goosen), Sakrus (Debbie Winkler), Sympathico (Ersting-Engemann),
Silas M (Yanix Elad), Sheila and Sundance Kid (Franke Sloothaak) and
Santorin F (Fritz Fervers) and of course, the World Cup Champion, Sandro Boy
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Maternal Side
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daughter of
Ramiro Z.
Ramiro Z is considered by many as the stallion of the century based on his
numerous top performing offspring in both dressage and showjumping as well
as his own performance record.
Conceived in Holstein, born in Westfalia, licenced at
Neumünster, and himself an international performer under Frtiz Liggges,
Ramiro Z influenced nearly all European Performance Studbooks.
Ramiro was the most popular distributor of the
Ramzes blood and the most frequented sire in Germany. He stood at stud in
Westfalia, Holstein, Zangersheide and Holland. Numerous sons and daughters
conserve and pass on the valuable genes that stand for rideability and
jumping talent. Therefore, it is not a surprise to find Ramiro's children
and grandchildren at the top levels of showjumping and dressage.
Some of the most famous offspring of Ramiro Z
are Ratina Z who won Olympic medals in two separate Olympics with two
different riders. Ramiro Z's daughter Fatinitza showjumping from
victory to victory under Fritz Ligges and Thomas Frühmann, and later mother
of the Zangerheide stallion, Almiro Z.
Ramiro's second season saw him in Holstein where
he produced three stallions: Rinaldo (out of a Trakehner mare), Rio Negro,
who became a Grand Prix dressage horse, trained by Willi Schultheis, and
Ronald, who was for years the most popular stallion in Holstein, where he
sired five licensed sons (among them the Champion of 1992, Rocadero) and
more than a hundred top broodmares, many of whom became mothers of sires
like Alcatraz, Libero, Lord Incipit, Larno, Le Grand - all exquisite sires
and sporthorses. Ronald, like his famous father, went to Holland - where he
stood for five years, and sired, among others, the showjumping sire Saluut,
the father of the Australian stallion, Salute.
Ramiro's influence on the Dutch Warmblood
breeding was, and still is, of utmost importance. The Dutch bestowed the
title - 'Horse of the Year' - on Ramiro in 1992. For Leon Melchior's
performance breeding program at Zangerheide, Ramiro became the strongest and
most successful pillar.
Ratina Z (by Ramiro out of Argentina by Almé),
the gold medal showjumping winner at Barcelona and the World Cup winner of
1992, is a famous example of Melchior's breeding program.
Ramiro was one of the first stallions to appear
in the sport. During his own sporting career, Ramiro had numerous wins at
all levels of showjumping - Nations Cups, Puissance (jumping over 2.2 metre!)
and in international Grand Prix competition.
When Ramio was presented for selection, he was
described as the ideal type of the modern Holsteiner - strongly imprinted by
his dam, tall and elegant, showing the top line of h is grandfather, Cottage
Son xx, with powerful frame, a glorious face and large, clear eyes. His
excellently formed neck, beautifully set, could still be seen, even when he
was an old horse, and are stamped on his progeny. Ramiro displayed a very
good walk, a normal trot. and a great canter - it was impossible not to be
enthusiastic.
Fortunately Ramiro's offspring show their
ancestor's genetic power and performance.
Further down in San Ramiro's dam line we find
the reliable jumping producing 'A' line. The A-line was founded by
Adeptus XX used for breeding from 1884-1904. Most important was his grandson
Alderman and through the Alderman son Alkoven this line produced the famous
stallion
Agram
(1942-62) an outstanding producer of
jumping horses. In Agram's color and type, one sees the influence of Arabian
blood through his Amateur I mother.
Agram, along with Ferdinand and Ramzes x,
belongs to the triumvirate of German procreators of sports horses following
the Second World War.
San Ramiro's damsire Raphael also carries the
blood of
Abglanz. Abglanz sired the
famous Absatz, who stood from 1964-1982. Absatz is one of the stallions who
had the biggest influence in changing the appearance the of the Hanoverians
within the last 20-30 years to a more modern. elegant type. His son Argentan
for example. standing since 1971, consistently produces the good Absatz type
and presence, including three national champion mares in broodmare shows,
and -among others- the impressive young stallion Airport. The Absatz sons
Akzent I and especially Akzent II and his son Acapulco are also very good
stallions in Germany. Overall, the line appears to be very versatile in
sports ability, including success in hunter competition.
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Trinity - Champion Hunter VIHJA Phoebe - Cedar Vista Stables
San Ramiro's foals are elegant, kind and athletic.
Trinity - Champion Hunter VIHJA
San Ramiro competing in Germany San Ramiro competing in Open Hunters USA
Starting back slowly at local shows
San Ramiro competing in Germany
Coming soon .....
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Ramiro please complete the following form:
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